Gen 6:1-4 The Nephilim

Gen 6:1-4,  based off

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6:1     seeGen 1:28  –  Gods fist commandment to multiply and cover the earth, is in it core being followed here, but is there some perversion?

in 2-4 is God happy with man? (we will get to the nephilim later)

Very simply in these verses is God happy with Man?

Of course not, what is He un-happy about? maybe we can not answer this yet….

What is the punishment?

Man is being divided from Gods Sprit here…

“My Spirit shall not abide in man forever”

perhaps the removal of the holy spirit is what actually limits the life of Man, but we know the effects are not immediate (Noah lives for a lot longer then 120 years)

We also know (by reading ahead) that “God wants to crumple all of creation into a ball and start over again”

ok… sons of God….there are many throies on Sons of God and nephilim.  The first and most popular finds its root in Job 1:6 where the ESV says “ow there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them.”  here Sons of God is clearly Angels

and yes None of us debate that there at least was a time when angels and demons walked the earth

this lead to a rabbit trail on new heaven/hell and old heaven /hell, see The Rich Man and Lazarus in  Luke 16:19 and um… most of revelation.  called them two waiting rooms, one is the penthouse, the other…not so much(see rich man) only to look forward to 2nd death, but back to the main trail

the 2nd verse for Sons of Man being Angels is 1 co 11:9-12 This of curse leads to a new rabbit trail, that no one ever wants to put down (we can discuss weather or not woman need to cover there to cover there heads anther time, that is it own study)   What the angels have to do with this is the real concern, we are left with 3 possibilities

a. angels lust for human woman, supporting the Sons of God being angels.

b. Angels are Gods “eyes” in the Church, men’s Lust are the real problem.  Just as Cherubim saw blood on the mercy seat do they see sin in the church?

c. Cherubim are guardian Angels… so why make them more work with the lust of Men?

note b and c are the lusts of men

see link on nephilim in Hebrew dictionary

nephilim is only used in one other place in the bible Nu 13:23-33 where the Hebrews are very intimated by the Canaanites and IU think just fell back on ghost stories they head on how tough the nephilim where and there was no nephilim post flood.

So we go to the root of the word ????? (n?·p??l); have an object go from a higher position to a lower position, often with the implication of being out of control in relation to the situation   –   ot to fall   making a loose translation of nephilim fallen ones or…… could it be fallen Angels?  Are Fallen Angles actually aliens? (do a Google search on nephilim and you will see what I am talking about)  maybe crop circles are actually caused by Michal chasing screwtape? (thank you Matt for that one)

The inter-testamental apocalyptic book of 1 Enoch asserts that these giants were the result of the union of angels and humans and that the mixing of the orders of creation is the reason God sent the flood. 1 Enoch also asserts that these giants who lost their physical bodies in the flood are the demons seeking to indwell human bodies for their own selfish reasons. (Utley, R. J. (2001). How it All Began)

Or could there be some thing simpler?

Utley leaned in another direction in his commentary

“The Nephilim” This implies “the fallen ones” (from the Hebrew naphal, BDB 658, KB 709). It seems to me that they are analogous to the giants (cf.Num. 13:33; alsoDeut. 2:10–11;9:2; and the Septuagint, the Vulgate and Peshitta translations). However, other interpreters such as Martin Luther and H.C. Leupold assert that this term should be interpreted “tyrants” which implies the powerful kings of Cain’s line who had large harems.

J. Wash Watts in Old Testament Teaching, pp. 28–30, says “Nephilim refers to Noah and his family as those who separated themselves from those of Cain’s line and Seth’s line who were intermarrying. In this interpretation Nephilim are the sons of the “One true God”

Mathew 22:30 sates that upon resection we will not marry, but be like the angels.  So angels do not merry, if they do not merry, do they breed?  I do not believe angels get a different law on this matter.  Those that support the angel / demon theory say that fallen angels went against the intended asexual nature, But this would require demons to be able to create (add to there body’s) without God.

So my conclusions are that sons of God are the line of Seth, and Daughters of man are the line of Cain.  Cain was fallen, making ins line “the fallen.”  They where evil ones not afaid to offend God war like and destructive, men to be feared, men …”These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown.  Godly men should have separated out from them, but they did not, leading to Greater evil.  So my Final conclusion is any one out side of God are technically Nephilim.


Galatians 5:19–26 (NKJV)
19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. 24 And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.

1466.  egkrateia; from 1468; mastery, self-control:
Prim Roots are “with strength”
Temperance…. Thompson chain Reference 3567
 2 Pe 1:5–8(ESV) For this very reason, make every effort to supplement your faith with virtue, and virtue with knowledge, and knowledge with self-control, and self-control with steadfastness, and steadfastness with godliness, and godliness with brotherly affection, and brotherly affection with love. For if these qualities are yours and are increasing, they keep you from being ineffective or unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Faith – Does it take Self Control to “step out of the boat?” (mat 25-33)
Yes, self control of fear, and steadfastness to stay out there
Self Control of fear would be called Courage
Tt 2:1–6(ESV) But as for you, teach what accords with sound doctrine. Older men are to be sober-minded, dignified, self-controlled, sound in faith, in love, and in steadfastness. Older women likewise are to be reverent in behavior, not slanderers or slaves to much wine. They are to teach what is good, and so train the young women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled, pure, working at home, kind, and submissive to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled. Likewise, urge the younger men to be self-controlled.


Pr 21:16–17(ESV) One who wanders from the way of good sense
will rest in the assembly of the dead.
17    Whoever loves pleasure will be a poor man;
he who loves wine and oil will not be rich.


If you “love” an item it becomes an Idol
If you spend all your money on you “loves” what do you have left?
            Drunks are often broke


1 Co 9:24–27(ESV) Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one receives the prize? So run that you may obtain it. 25 Every athlete exercises self-control in all things. They do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable. 26 So I do not run aimlessly; I do not box as one beating the air. 27 But I discipline my body and keep it under control, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified.
If we Practice Prayer and study the word when we need it to battle the devil it will automatic, like a martial art. 


Pr 16:32(ESV) Whoever is slow to anger is better than the mighty,
and he who rules his spirit than he who takes a city.


HIS sprit not THE sprit, meaning your inner emotions
NIV translated as temper


Pr 25:28(ESV) A man without self-control
is like a city broken into and left without walls.


It is better to control yourself then to control the world 


6/11/12 faithfulness


Galatians 5:19–26 (NKJV)

19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. 24 And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.

Heb 11:1–2(NKJV) Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 2 For by it the elders obtained a good testimony.

Heb 11:1–2 (ESV) Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. For by it the people of old received their commendation.

1 Jn 5:4–5(ESV)  For everyone who has been born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith. Who is it that overcomes the world except the one who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?

Ro 4:3–8 (ESV) “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.” Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness, just as David also speaks of the blessing of the one to whom God counts righteousness apart from works:

       “Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven, and whose sins are covered;

       blessed is the man against whom the Lord will not count his sin.”

see also James 2


1 Co 2:1–5(ESV) And I, when I came to you, brothers, did not come proclaiming to you the testimony of God with lofty speech or wisdom. For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. And I was with you in weakness and in fear and much trembling, and my speech and my message were not in plausible words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, so that your faith might not rest in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.

Mk 5:25–34(ESV) And there was a woman who had had a discharge of blood for twelve years, 26 and who had suffered much under many physicians, and had spent all that she had, and was no better but rather grew worse. 27 She had heard the reports about Jesus and came up behind him in the crowd and touched his garment. 28 For she said, “If I touch even his garments, I will be made well.” 29 And immediately the flow of blood dried up, and she felt in her body that she was healed of her disease. 30 And Jesus, perceiving in himself that power had gone out from him, immediately turned about in the crowd and said, “Who touched my garments?” 31 And his disciples said to him, “You see the crowd pressing around you, and yet you say, ‘Who touched me?’ ” 32 And he looked around to see who had done it. 33 But the woman, knowing what had happened to her, came in fear and trembling and fell down before him and told him the whole truth. 34 And he said to her, “Daughter, your faith has made you well; go in peace, and be healed of your disease.”

see also Matthew 9:22  Matthew 9:22  Matthew 15:28 Mark 10:52 Luke 7:50     Luke 8:25  Luke 8:48 Luke 17:19 Luke 18:42 Luke 22:32